Samstag, Juli 18, 2009

Wundertüte Norderney

Nach drei anstrengenden Wochen Messebau konnte ich mir letzten Sonntag mit FAB und Uwe eine wohlverdiente Belohnung abholen.
Sonne, kopfhohe saubere offshore Wellen, allerdings leider ca. 20 Leute im Wasser.
Wird langsam Zeit für ein bisschen Localism!
Zum Glück ist T Moe die nächsten zwei Monate auf der Insel und kann für Ordnung sorgen.
Vielen Dank an FAB fürs filmen und schneiden.
Das nächste mal bitte aber zwei Stunden vorher bei Flut die Kamera rausholen.

189 Kommentare:

Anonym hat gesagt…

immerhin sieht man mich zeitweise blöd rumtreiben im hintergrund. zu mehr hats dann ja auch nicht gereicht. leute, wenn ihr nach nordy kommt benehemt euch und wenn ihr anfänger seid verpisst ihr euch bitte zum üben nach vorne ins weisswasser oder woanders hin. das war bei dieser session auf jeden fall nicht hinnehmbar. wenn ihr auf schreie nicht reagieren wollt, dann wundert euch bitte nicht, wenn wir demnächst durchdrehen....aber fetter clip, fab. bald gehts weiter...uwe

Belove hat gesagt…

Miller, wenn Du so süß guckst bin ich sogar manchmal nen bisschen verliebt in dich.

Fetter Stall am Ende!!!

Anonym hat gesagt…

Moin von der Insel

Wie arm ist das den ?
Sich über "Anfänger " aufregen, aber mitten im gekennzeichneten Badefeld Wellenreiten?

Macht weiter so und bald werden die Strände für Wellenreiter gesperrt.

fab hat gesagt…

auch moin,
das badefeld war freigegeben für die surfer.
die bademeister haben rote flagge rausgehängt und gesagt ist alles klar mit surfen im badefeld, also nicht darüber aufregen jungens

Anonym hat gesagt…

He fab
Sorry, aber ein Badefeld ist nun mal per Definintion nur für Badende.

Bei einem Unfall steht ihr ganz schön alleine da, die Badeaufsicht kann euch das Wellenreiten gar nicht erlauben.
Also besser auf den kleinen Strandabschnitt verzichten.

Anonym hat gesagt…

Über Sinn oder Unsinn dieses Badefeldes kann man sich streiten. Als es d.J. eröffnet wurde war das Wasser arschkalt und weit und breit kein Schwimmer in Sicht. Dann Surfer rauszutröten ist doch wohl leicht übertrieben. Rote Flagge bedeutet für Schwimmer die sich nicht daran halten "auf eigene Gefahr". Wir achten schon darauf keine Schwimmer zu gefährden aber ob das die Anfänger können?! Ich hatte schon mal ein Brett im Gesicht und Miller ist an dem Tag auch eins an die Mammel geflogen, was aber keine Entschuldigung für seine Macke sein soll;-) Verlegt das Badefeld, geht surfen und beachtet die Regeln. An dem Tag war übrigens einer der Rettungsschwimmer mit im Badefed surfen, muuuaaaahhh

Anonym hat gesagt…

moin auf die insel,
gegen anfänger habe ich überhaupt nix, nur gegen leute die sich nicht an die regeln halten wollen! und rote flagge heißt baden aber nicht surfen verboten. gruß uwe

Anonym hat gesagt…

Moin von der Insel

He Uwe
Ich hab mich vieleicht etwas unklar ausgedrückt.

Ein Badefeld -gekennzeichnet durch gelbe Bojen und/oder Kreuz - ist eine Sperrzone für Wasserfahrzeuge aller Art.So auch in der Seekarte eingetragen.
Hat nichts mit der Badezeit zu tun.
Die Flaggen sicher nur ein beaufsichtiges Baden zu.

Also einfach wegbleiben.

Und ein Badefeld verlegen - wer weiss schon wo die Wellen sich nächstes Jahr aufbauen.

BLK hat gesagt…

Haha, köstlich.

Anonym hat gesagt…

hey Anonymus, wie wärs wenn du schon so nett diskutierst, dass du mal deinen namen nennst. machen wir doch auch hier.
oder bist du einer der typen die auf den surfblogs immer ihren senf dazu geben aber nicht die eier in der shorts haben auch zu zeigen wer sie sind?
wie schon erwähnt war die badezone gesperrt für schwimmer. so aus die diskussion darüber.
über anfänger und den scheiss muss man auch nicht diskutieren. die sollen halt aufpassen und nicht doof reindropen.macht jeder von uns auch so an lineups wo bessere leute sind.
und den nächsten post von dir anonymus mal bitte mit namen.
moin FAB

Anonym hat gesagt…

Moin von der Insel

Anonym bin ich weil ich keinen Google Briefkasten habe.

Nenn mich FAB-2 wenn dir das hilft.

Auch wenn es anscheinend schwer zu begreifen ist erklär ich es gerne nochmal langsam.

Eine Badezone ist und bleibt eine Badezone solange sie angemeldet und genehmigt ist. Seestrassenschifffahrtordnung.

Das hat rein gar nichts mit dem Badebetrieb zu tun.
Nimm es einfach mal so hin.

Die Flaggen ...( ach lies einfach weiter oben.)

fabi hat gesagt…

es gibt nur einen FAB
ich hab auch kein googlekasten.
ich nenne hier nur einfach meinen namen so wie sich das gehört. hab mal die eier in der hose und beende deinen posts mit deinem namen so wie wir das machen hier.
deine kritik ist hier ja nicht verboten oder so aber man sollte schon so viel eier haben auch seinen namen mitzuposten wenn man kritik an anderen leuten übt.

miller hat gesagt…

endlich mal stress...korrekt!
anscheinend scheint es hier jemand nicht zu kapieren, aber es geht hier nicht um das scheiss badefeld.
es geht darum, dass die leute zu dritt eine welle surfen, sich alle gegenseitig reindroppen und sich dann ein typ nach ner dreiviertel stunde ins lineup kämpft, mich dann fragt wie man nen take off macht und dann aufm bauch mit'm longboard anfängt surfer (und schwimmer) umzurasieren.
take offs kann man auch im weisswasser üben. boards hält man gefälligst fest, wenn ne welle kommt und bevor man nen take off macht,schaut man sich mal um, ob nicht schon jemand auf der welle ist!!!
prost
miller

Birk hat gesagt…

geile action bei euch auf der insel. ich glaube ich komme nächstes WE mal rauf, packe dann aber nen helm ein ;). oder ihr kommt einfach mal mit nach holland?? dann wisst ihr wenigstens wie richtige anarchie im lineup aussieht :D

Uwe hat gesagt…

ich glaube hier vereiert uns einer, von wegen seetrassenschifffahrtordnung. wo solls die denn geben?!!
um das olle badefeld gehts hier überhaupt nicht, da kann ich miller nur beipflichten. Aber aus Prinzip: "Eine einzelne rote Flagge zeigt ein generelles Badeverbot wegen akuter Gefahrenlagen, wie Strömung, hoher Wellengang, aber auch Wasserverschmutzung, an."
Und nu schreib mal wer Du bist, würde mich auch mal interssieren!
Gruß Uwe

Mailo hat gesagt…

Moin von der Insel

Wenn's interessiert ich hab auch so was wie ein Profil angelegt.

Zurück zum "Badefeld"

Auch wenn es einigen hier nicht bekannt ist oder schlicht ignoriert wird.
Es gibt so was wie eine Strassenverkehrsordnung "StVO" auch für das Wasser.

Sollte jeder der einen Segel- oder Sportbootführerschein hat kennen.
Und da ist nunmal genau geregelt und beschrieben wo wer fahren darf.
Das beinhaltet eben die besagten Badezonen.
Die sind durch gelbe Boje, Bake, Kreuze gekennzeichnet.
Und da darf man mit einen Wasserfahrzeuge noch nicht mal in die Nähe kommen.
Könnte ja mal ein Schwimmer abtreiben.

Zu den Flaggen:
Sie kennzeichne die Badezone als "Sicher" bzw "Gefährlich".
Das heißt aber noch nicht Badeverbot.
Das gibt es gar nicht.
Man schwimmt eben nur auf eigenes Risiko und darf sich nicht darauf verlassen das der Strand durch Rettungsschwimmer bewacht ist.

Ist das so klar?

Mir geht es nicht um Locals oder Strokes nur darum das Badende in ihrem Bereich geschützt sind.
Stell euch mal vor die Schwimmer baden in "eurem" Strandabschnitt.
Was für einen Aufschrei wird das geben.
Und das dürfen die sogar.

miller hat gesagt…

hi mailo!
alle geben dir zunder und du stellst dich....mutig, mutig.
wir reden glaub ich aneinander vorbei.
wir wollen auch keinen gefährden und waren das letzte mal im badefeld draußen, weil die rote flagge oben war. wenn das aber nicht erlaubt ist und leute stört gehen wir da natürlich nicht mehr raus, auch wenn die wellen da im moment leider am besten sind.
allerdings haben wir dann dummerweise immer noch die ganzen hirnies mit ihren umherfliegenden brettern um uns herum.
und wer schützt uns?
naja...der nächste winter kommt bestimmt und dann wird es ruhiger.
trotzdem immer weiter fleißig den blog lesen, schließlich mögen wir die insel ja alle.
gruß
miller

uwe hat gesagt…

hallo mailo,

ich schließe mich millers aussage an. deinem profil kann ich entnehmen, dass du bei der drlg bist. meine aussage zu der roten fahne habe ich der homepage der drlg entnommen.

http://www.dlrg.de/rund-um-die-sicherheit/badestellenkennzeichnung.html

entweder, musst du mal ne fortbildung einlegen oder die homepage muss überarbeitet werden;-)
gruß uwe

fabi :) hat gesagt…

jo auch von mir sehr gut: du stellst dich der meute :)
zur stvo: wenn das gekennzeichnet sein muss, was steht denn da im badefeld auf norderney?
ich kann mich erinnern bojen oder zweige oder kreuze gesehen zu haben?
und ist es echt so ein ding wenn die rote flagge raus und baden eh verboten ist das surfer draussen sitzen und die wellen genießen?
warum muss man immer so bürokratisch kleinlich sein.
wenn die surfer aufpassen dann passiert ja nix.
in frankreich geht das ja auch :) da gibs auch schwimmer zonen, und wenn die gesperrt sind wird das surfen dort auch toleriert. so sind meine erfahrungen halt.
naja wie auch immer. alle sollten sich entspannt verhalten aufpassen und regeln bevolgen aber auch nicht übertreiben und so ne.
halten ihn hart jungs

Anonym hat gesagt…

Neulich im Badefeld...

http://magicseaweed.com/photoLab/viewPhoto.php?photoId=59243&browseSession=1d7d366802bc953aa54c9ee69c0270c9

gruß Ulf

Mailo hat gesagt…

Moin von der Insel

@uwe
Die Flaggen sind weltweit genormt Ist sogar eine ISO Norm.
Leider nicht auf Norderney.
Die Kurverwaltung hängt noch am alten System.
Rot ist aber in beiden Systemen mit der gleichen Bedeutung.
Aber es gibt kein Badeverbot nur eben keine Sicherung.
Was nicht heissen soll das es nicht auch ein Badeverbot gibt.
Das kann der Hausherr der Badestelle aussprechen oder der Staaat bei zB. Algenblüte oder so.
An Norderneyer Badezonen weißt ein Schild darauf hin das bei "Rot" auf Eigene Gefahr gebadet wird.
(Gerettet wird aber trotzdem -dauert nur länger bis jemand kommt).

@fab
Die Gelben Kreuze sind auf Stangen rechts und links von Badefeld, zudem sind die Dalben gelb getrichen.

@ulf
Schönes Bild leider OT
Hier treffen sich 2 Gleichberechtigte die zudem noch durch Neos und Schuhe (Helm?) geschützt sind.
Das ist leider beim Zusammenstoß mit Schwimmern nicht so.

man sieht sich ;-))

uwe hat gesagt…

irgend etwas stimmt hier nicht. die iso-norm der fahne interessiert doch gar nicht, sondern nur deren bedeutung. zusätzlich zu der vom dlrg selbst veröffentlichen hinweise folgende unterstützende zitate auf der seite www.anwalt.de:

"Beflaggung von Badestellen und Warnschilder

Ein weiteres wichtiges Kriterium für die Sicherheit von Gewässern sind die Beflaggung und eventuell aufgestellte Warnschilder. Nicht jede mögliche Badestelle kann durch Warnflaggen oder Schilder gesichert werden, schon allein wegen des vielfachen „wilden Badens“, bei dem Freizeitschwimmer sich gezielt besonders abgelegene und lauschige Badestellen suchen, die jedoch ungesichert sind.

Die Deutsche Lebensrettungsgesellschaft e.V. (DLRG) hat zur Kennzeichnung von Badestellen neue Flaggen eingeführt, die auf Badeverbote, besondere Gefahren oder einen relativ ungefährdeten Badeabschnitt hinweisen. Auf folgende, an einem Mast gehisste Flaggen sollten Sie achten:

Flagge der DLRG: Diese Badestelle ist durch einen Schwimmmeister oder Rettungsschwimmer der DLRG bewacht.

Rot-gelbe Flagge: Eine rot-gelbe Flagge an einer Wachstation zeigt an, dass das Badegebiet aktuell bewacht wird. Die rot-gelbe Flagge direkt am Strand grenzt das überwachte Gebiet ein.

Grüne Flagge: Sie wird zusätzlich am Mast gehisst. Hier ist gerade bewachte Badezeit. An der Küste im Zeitabschnitt von 2 Stunden vor bis 2 Stunden nach dem Hochwasser.

Gelbe Flagge: Sie wird ebenfalls zusätzlich am Mast gehisst. Hier gilt ein eingeschränktes Badeverbot, d.h. man soll auf aktuelle Informationen der Aufsicht und Lautsprecherdurchsagen achten.

Rote Flagge: Wenn sie zusätzlich oder auch alleine gehisst ist, gilt absolutes Badeverbot, d.h. Baden ist in jedem Fall untersagt.

Blaue Flagge: Sie wird ebenfalls zusätzlich gehisst und gilt insbesondere an Küsten mit Gezeitengewässern. Die blaue Flagge kündigt das Einsetzen der Flut an. Hier muss man v.a. vorgelagerte Sandbänke räumen und zurück an die Küste bzw. auf die Insel.

Zweifarbige Bojen: Sie grenzen das Gebiet des bewachten Badestrandes ein. Man sollte sich immer nur innerhalb dieses Badeabschnitts aufhalten. Sie haben damit die gleiche Bedeutung wie die rot-gelben Flaggen direkt am Strand."

Da der DRLG die Aufsicht auf Norderney übernimmt, soll ich jetzt glauben, dass die o.g. Regeln überall gelten, nur nicht auf der Insel, häääää?????!!

Mailo hat gesagt…

Moin von der Insel.

Alles Richtig
1 Setzen.

Ne doch nicht.
Der letzte Satz.
Die Strände auf Norderney werden NICHT von der DLRG bewacht.
Das macht die Kurverwaltung.
Darum leider noch keine genormte Beflaggung.
Hatte ich aber weiter oben schon ewähnt.

BLK hat gesagt…

Sopelana is noch Punkrock. Soviel dazu. DLRG gibts hier nicht, hier macht das das Rote Kreuz. Die verarzten dann auch gleich die Verwundeten wie man sieht.

http://www.surf30.net/2009/07/sesion-del-20-de-julio-del-2009.html

So ich geh jetzt ma meine Finnen schärfen.

Uwe hat gesagt…

dann müssen wir uns wohl künftig vor ort über die flaggengewohnheiten erkundigen, ist ja schlimm wenn das überall unterschiedlich gehandhabt wird. sicher das es sich um sopelana handelt, sieht aus wie nordy letztes woe?! sopelana kenn ich nur mit monsterwellen und ködel in der hose. aber geiler spot mit guten bars in denen hardcore mucke gespielt wird. ich gehe jetzt zum baggersee, da darf man mit dem board paddeln, sogar in der badezone (ist ja qausi der ganze see). reingehauen

Anonym hat gesagt…

He, ein putziger Beitrag! Leute, ihr kommt nicht von der Insel und redet von localism... Und sich durch eine Freundschaft mit Timo "groß" fühlen und ihn was klären lassen...Seid ihr noch im Sandkastenalter??? Klar ist es richtig scheiße ein Brett an den Kopf zu bekommen, weil einer nich aufgepasst hat und natürlich erscheint es putzig wenn sich einer 45 Minuten ins Lineup gekämpft hat um dann nicht zu wissen wie ein Takeoff geht. Aber das sind Dinge die passieren, nicht nur auf Ney. Und ich denke, euch sind zu euren Anfängen auch einige Missgeschicke passiert... Traurigerweise wissen einige nicht, welche Regeln es gibt...Aber durch proletenhaftes Gebrülle werden sie diese auch nicht lernen. Also Jungs, bitte mal die dicken Hosen ausziehen und kommt von eurem localismtripp runter...ihr seid Touris! Greetz, Chris

Uwe hat gesagt…

Kacke, warum lese ich den Scheiß von dem Chris erst jetzt.....Junge, Du bist so dumm....ha ha ha ha ha.....!!!!

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